Comments on: Designer Nation

By: Alex McKee

Alex McKee — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 02:25:18 +0000

Sorry to bump this, I just found Malarkeys post, and seeing comments were ended there, and he linked to your follow up I’d like to leave some thoughts.

First of all, I am a very proud Briton. However, I do not believe design and nationality can go together in the 21st century. New dynamics are emerging. As touched upon in the comment above, the Britpack has a distinct style, but this is more because they are friends who deal with the same sort of design and techniques, and are developing sites whilst reading one anothers blogs. This isn’t a bad thing. It’s a community.

Another design set, is the 24-7media/Ingo Ramin design style. This has been massively emulated worldwide but only by DQS community members. The dynamics of world wide web design emerge from our communities. These communities, by the nature of the web, are international. This is not a bad thing, it’s a very good thing.

The only thing to fear from the encroaching americanised design style is unoriginality. If designers fail to translate their experiences, tastes etc into their work we will not see new styles emerging. That will be the start of the homogenisation.

By: Craig

Craig — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:22:00 +0000

Andy, thanks so much for your kind words and thanks for provoking the thoughts. This is a topic I’ve been thinking on since you brought it up at SXSW, and clearly there’s still much to ponder.

Richard, I agree completely. It’s going to be nearly impossible for a style to not only develop in isolation, but to then remain unique to a country without being copied by others. However, I think it’s very possible (and almost inevitable) that localized trends and schools of design may pop up in a particular region, flourish for a time, and then spread.

In “traditional” art, movements have always been led and exemplified by a small group of artists who collaborate and influence each other (how many French Impressionists can you name?). I think the Britpack is already building a noticable style through close contact and collaboration. Within a few more years that style will spread worldwide and, alas, lose its unique Britishness (which I still can’t quite place a finger on, but something is there) until you lot come up with something new for us to swipe. But even when designers around the world are emulating that style, it will be remembered as coming from the UK. We’ll be discussing “The Britpack style” the same way we discuss French Impressionism.

By: Richard Rutter

Richard Rutter — Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:20:38 +0000

Great response, Craig. I think you’re right that individual design identities evolve and become distinct through a lack of contact with other influences. This might be why British web design may never be distinct from American web design, not only because we British consume much that is American but because there is a lot of contact and conversation between British and US designers. It’s also probably fair to say that US and British designers will turn to the same design portals for inspiration.

If you take the Web Standards group of designers – let’s face it, it’s a small subset of all web designers – the group is definitely multi-national in scope and yet an individual aesthetic is building, as noted in a post I made a while back. So here you have a style evolving based not on geography, but on peer influence.

Due to the far greater international reach of influence on thw web, compared with other media, I think that geographical web design styles will only develop in response to a national need and will not occur otherwise. Though it would be great if British Web Design for the new Swiss Graphic Design.

By: Malarkey

Malarkey — Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:37:15 +0000

I should respond by telling you that I think that this post is one of the most elegant and intelligently thought through reply to any column which I have written. Reading replies such as yours is not only gratifying but makes writing on the web a real pleasure. Many thanks for your interest.

Kind regards,

Andy Clarke

By: I am Jack's delusional state

I am Jack's delusional state — Thu, 02 Jun 2005 04:43:22 +0000

I think the biggest example of cultural diversity on the web is the insane Japanese/Chinese websites; with their penchant for a plethora of cute animal images (especially Hello Kitty), and of course all of them are animated. They also seem to have a distinct page layout, with shit everywhere! They are like a portal to animated GIF hell. They remind me of the Simpson’s episode when they are in Japan, and a cartoon comes on with flashing lights which give everyone an epilectic fit.