Comments on: I’m a Recovering Browser Elitist

By: Joël kuiper

Joël kuiper — Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:15:25 +0000

ignore that please…it will remove combined classes…

By: Joël kuiper

Joël kuiper — Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:13:43 +0000

I actually think that replacing this.className = this.className.replace(/\b focus\b/, ""); with this.className = this.setAttribute("class",""); is a better idea

By: Tino Zijdel

Tino Zijdel — Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:33:37 +0000

There should actually be something like an ‘onrenderend’ event. The only other suitable option to append behavior to elements without the delay waiting for onload to occur is to polute your markup with inline scripts or use htc’s (which in this case wouldn’t be all that bad since it is for IE only).

Still I strongly advice against the sort of browser sniffing displayed here. Even Opera has the ‘MSIE’ bit by default in it’s useragent string nowadays to spoof browserdetections. UA-strings cannot be trusted. I also know of some 3rd party software that actually sents an empty or bogus string, even when using IE (I believe it’s Norton Firewall – not very uncommon)…

By: Craig

Craig — Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:07:18 +0000

Semantically, I’m totally on the boat. I probably wouldn’t use :hover or :focus to display a drop-down, for example. Events affecting the structure of a page should be handled by script, not CSS. The focused field gimmick seems presentational enough that I still believe :focus is kosher.

By: Jonathan Snook

Jonathan Snook — Fri, 29 Apr 2005 17:45:05 +0000

I suspect the number of people who have javascript turned off is a small minority.

In any case, I’m just arguing the semantics of the issue. I’d have done the same as you. In fact, the input’s on my page use :focus and I didn’t even include an IE fallback. :)